So I'd like to vent for a minute about something that has greatly annoyed me. I'll also point out up front that for the purposes of being a decent human being and not wishing to shame the person in question, I'll avoid using his username in the journal.
So the other day, I completed a commission for a friend that was a bondage-themed story, and I was looking for groups in which to post the work. In doing so, I ran across a particular one which I thought would be suitable and proceeded to join and request to add a few works that fit with what I assumed to be the general "bondage" theme of the group.
Upon submitting my contribution requests, I glanced again at the info section and was really rather annoyed by what I found. Among other statements were the following:
"Ropes, cuffs, tentacles...just make 'em tight... I prefer them with high heels. None of those silly assed platform ones. Look at my paintings and you'll see what I like."
"NO MALES...period...I don't give a damn that there are men who like to be tied up."
"If your art isn't up to my standards (and that's MY decision) it won't be approved."
"Show improvement and I'll let them in. If it's some goofy looking blob or something that would not work, they'll be disapproved."
After letting it sink in, I thought immediately about withdrawing my pending requests because I was just... eww. The level of annoyance was pretty bad at this point, but it, of course, got worse. First, my thoughts about this.
1) Most of what was said in the Info section was downright rude
to the point of probably offending quite a few passersby, and what's worse, it's unnecessarily so. Everything that was said rudely/offensively could have been said in a manner that wasn't obviously careless to others' thoughts and feelings.
2) Example: "I don't give a damn that there are men who like to be tied up." What is the purpose of including that? To make men who like bondage feel bad? To make people who do art, photography, writing, etc. of men in bondage feel bad? If not, there's not really any fucking point whatsoever in including that. There are plenty of themed groups which state one gender or the other for the purpose of keeping a certain theme. The smarter and more accommodating groups simply utilize this wonderful feature deviantart has enabled for groups: folders. They solve a whole lot of problems and allow more art of similar themes but with organize-able differences to be posted to the same group, allowing more exposure for more artists and a more well-rounded group gallery. That, however, is just my take on the matter.
3) "If your art isn't up to my standards" is a rather pretentious statement, especially when that particular person's standards are quite low after inspection. Further, if you're going to set a "standard", it's best to actually define that standard for others. Otherwise, it generally comes off looking like the words of a narcissistic twat.
4) It's downright obnoxious, in my opinion, when someone makes a group focused solely around that person's tastes and publicizes it. I've always been of the mind that clearly stating a theme and rules is good, but saying things to the effect of "if I personally don't like it, it gets declined" is simply put: rude. I know I've said "rude" a lot here, but it is, truly. Having a technical standard and a theme is one thing, but having a person pretty much say if it's not his/her personal sexual or otherwise interest, it gets declined... that's just... rude.
So naturally, I felt uneasy about the whole thing once I'd thought about the presentation of the group on its front page, but I decided to wait and see how it played out. Some of my work was accepted, but I was surprised to note that several of my better pieces were declined. Confused, I sent a message inquiring, and I received a reply of only "Read group info." I felt as though this was a rather rude response, considering my polite inquiry and the obvious lack of actual attention given to a response for me, especially since I had, in fact, read the group info and still found myself confused as to why the work was declined.
One piece in particular which was discussed was this:
After the "read group info" response, I replied stating that it was bondage themed, not male, of very high quality standards, and included better anatomy and more time and effort than a lot of the existing work in the gallery. I wasn't trying to be egotistic, but I was making a point about my confusion because I honestly didn't see why it would be declined. Sure, there's much better art in existence than the picture in question. I'm sure many artists consider it of lower quality than their art, and they'd be right. I'm not the best, and I have a long way to go. However, when someone posts something as annoyingly pretentious as "If your art isn't up to my standards" and has art of much lower quality not only in his personal gallery but also work of much lower quality in the group gallery in question, it gives you an oddly strong feeling of distaste to have your work declined.
So I waited. I considered maybe my response was a bit harsh. Maybe I came on too strong, but I was just trying to be frank and get my question answered. When I got the reply, it became apparent that the level of obnoxious this person exudes is simply far beyond what I felt like tolerating.
His reply: "Pay attention: You appear to lack reading comprehension. It says MAKE 'EM TIGHT. A simple collar is not tight."
First off, I have no issues with reading comprehension. If he wishes to dispute that, I'm sure that a simple trip through any place where I've published anything written will suffice to explain my comprehension skills. Second, good GRIEF. Could he be more RUDE?
I wish I could be done with that word. I feel repetitive using it, but truly, this guy is so RUDE. Do my reading comprehension skills need to be insulted to give feedback on a simple inquiry? Nope. The fact that it's there unnecessarily speaks volumes about this person's attitude and exactly why I have no desire whatsoever to further participate in his group. Third, has this person ever WORN a collar? I read the whole "Make 'em tight" junk. Collars are, you know, adjustable. They can even be choke tight. Beyond the fact that the statement "A simple collar is not tight" is completely baseless and an obvious display of ignorance, I felt incredibly annoyed that this person was so generally coarse and self-important.
Here's the end of the conversation about my Heather piece before I ninja blocked the jerk: i.imgur.com/PETDz6W.png
In the end, it's all a lot of stupid trouble to go through just to have a simple question answered about why something got declined. It wasn't even worth it, as the group isn't even that great. It's got a few good pieces in the gallery, but the owner is obviously a trash person, and there's no sense in putting up with someone like that to be a part of a small or mid-level group that is so limited in what is accepted (the owner's own doing, of course).
I think I'm done ranting now. So thoughts? Opinions? Do you disagree? Agree? If so, why? I love discussing issues, even if others don't take my side. Have you ever had similar annoyances? What irks you most about people on deviantart or elsewhere?
Well, with that, I'll say to you all: Much love, and I hope you are all well!